Loot mechanics - Revision history

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	To be clear, this system has never been a secret, but it has been poorly communicated in the past. So, this page was born.		To be clear, this system has never been a secret, but it has been poorly communicated in the past. So, this page was born.

	==~~Section 1:~~ Rationale==		==Rationale==
	Drop rates are different in August than you would expect to see in OSRS, and this is due to many factors. The primary factors are:		Drop rates are different in August than you would expect to see in OSRS, and this is due to many factors. The primary factors are:
	* Economy at scale		* Economy at scale
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	* Additionally, your damage contribution is factored into this rate.		* Additionally, your damage contribution is factored into this rate.

	==~~Section 2:~~ Examples==		==Examples==
	===Example 1: World Boss===		===Example 1: World Boss===
	Let's say you are one of 500 people killing the World Boss, and an item on that table is <code>1/100</code>, and none of them drop?		Let's say you are one of 500 people killing the World Boss, and an item on that table is <code>1/100</code>, and none of them drop?
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	* The expected kills to roll this drop table is <code>64 kills</code> in a solo party at 100% contribution.		* The expected kills to roll this drop table is <code>64 kills</code> in a solo party at 100% contribution.

	==~~Section 3:~~ Weighting==		==Weighting==
	Weighting becomes a factor when a drop table contains more than 1 item in that table. As shown above in Example 4, the drop table discussed had 2 items. These two items are not guaranteed to have the same weighting, meaning the likelihood for you to receive one or the other if you roll that drop table.		Weighting becomes a factor when a drop table contains more than 1 item in that table. As shown above in Example 4, the drop table discussed had 2 items. These two items are not guaranteed to have the same weighting, meaning the likelihood for you to receive one or the other if you roll that drop table.

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	==Section 3: Weighting==		==Section 3: Weighting==
	Weighting becomes a factor when a drop table contains more than 1 item in that table. As shown above in Example 4, the drop table discussed had 2 items. These two items are not guaranteed to have the same weighting, meaning the ~~likelyhood~~ for you to receive one or the other if you roll that drop ~~rable~~.		Weighting becomes a factor when a drop table contains more than 1 item in that table. As shown above in Example 4, the drop table discussed had 2 items. These two items are not guaranteed to have the same weighting, meaning the likelihood for you to receive one or the other if you roll that drop table.

	Utilizing the [[Corporeal Beast]] again:		Utilizing the [[Corporeal Beast]] again:

Dezzie: /* Example 3: Duo Grouping */

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Example 3: Duo Grouping

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	* All players receive a "bonus" <code>20%</code> damage contribution for being in a grouped kill.		* All players receive a "bonus" <code>20%</code> damage contribution for being in a grouped kill.
	** Total contribution is now <code>86%</code>		** Total contribution is now <code>86%</code>
	* With a <code>53%</code> contribution, the <code>1/100</code> drop table becomes <code>1.163x</code> rarer than the base rate.		* With a <code>86%</code> contribution, the <code>1/100</code> drop table becomes <code>1.163x</code> rarer than the base rate.
	* The <code>1/100</code> drop table is now <code>1/116</code>		* The <code>1/100</code> drop table is now <code>1/116</code>

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	The [[Loot mechanics]] page will outline the math behind drop rates, and can be used to better understand how drops are calculated for groups specifically.		The [[Loot mechanics]] page will outline the math behind drop rates, and can be used to better understand how drops are calculated for groups specifically.

	For basic information on drop rates and for solo rates, see the [[Drop ~~rates~~]] page.		For basic information on drop rates and for solo rates, see the [[Drop rate]] page.

	To be clear, this system has never been a secret, but it has been poorly communicated in the past. So, this page was born.		To be clear, this system has never been a secret, but it has been poorly communicated in the past. So, this page was born.

Bark at 20:44, 9 March 2025

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	Loot mechanics, ~~sometimes referred~~ to as drop ~~rate~~, is the ~~system that controls what items are dropped, and with probability~~.		The [[Loot mechanics]] page will outline the math behind drop rates, and can be used to better understand how drops are calculated for groups specifically.

			For basic information on drop rates and for solo rates, see the [[Drop rates]] page.

	To be clear, this system has never been a secret, but it has been poorly communicated in the past. So, this page was born.		To be clear, this system has never been a secret, but it has been poorly communicated in the past. So, this page was born.

Bark: /* Example 4: Five Man Group */

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Example 4: Five Man Group

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	===Example 4: Five Man Group===		===Example 4: Five Man Group===
	For this example, let's assume you are a 5 man team which all had equal damage contribution.		For this example, let's assume you are a 5 man team which all had equal damage contribution.
	~~<br>~~ The drop table we will use is the Holy Elixir / Spirit Shield table, which is <code>1/64</code>
			The drop table we will use is the Holy Elixir / Spirit Shield table, which is <code>1/64</code>
	<br>Following the same structure as above, all players now have a <code>40%</code> effective damage contribution, adjusting the drop rate from <code>1/64</code> to <code>1/160</code>		<br>Following the same structure as above, all players now have a <code>40%</code> effective damage contribution, adjusting the drop rate from <code>1/64</code> to <code>1/160</code>

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	<br> 5 players rolling <code>1/160</code> is <code>5/160 == 1/32</code>		<br> 5 players rolling <code>1/160</code> is <code>5/160 == 1/32</code>

	Given these calculations~~, the exlected~~ kills to roll this drop table is <code> 32 kills </code> in a 5 man group~~, as opposed~~ to <code> 64 kills </code> in a solo party at 100% contribution.		Given these calculations:
			* The expected kills to roll this drop table is <code>32 kills</code> in a 5 man group at equal(20%) contribution.
			* The expected kills to roll this drop table is <code>64 kills</code> in a solo party at 100% contribution.

	==Section 3: Weighting==		==Section 3: Weighting==

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	Drop rate is more than just the rate of the listed NPC. There are additional factors, outlined below;		Drop rate is more than just the rate of the listed NPC. There are additional factors, outlined below;
	* Assume a monster has a drop rate of 1/100		* Assume a monster has a drop rate of <code>1/100</code>
	* On kill, regardless of party size or your damage contribution, each player has a chance to roll drops.		* On kill, regardless of party size or your damage contribution, each player has a chance to roll drops.
	* Drop rolls are calculated by table first, THEN the item itself.		* Drop rolls are calculated by table first, THEN the item itself.
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	<br>Surely, there should have been 5 dropped. If this were the case, the economy would collapse. This was thought of and intentially not how it works.		<br>Surely, there should have been 5 dropped. If this were the case, the economy would collapse. This was thought of and intentially not how it works.

	For this example, let's assume you had a ~~'''~~1% damage contribution~~'''~~		For this example, let's assume you had a <code>1% damage contribution</code>
	* All players receive a "bonus" 20% damage contribution for being in a grouped kill.		* All players receive a "bonus" <code>20%</code> damage contribution for being in a grouped kill.
	* Total contribution is now 21%.		** Total contribution is now <code>21%</code>.
	* With a 21% contribution, the 1/100 drop table becomes 4.761x rarer than the base rate.		* With a <code>21%</code> contribution, the <code>1/100</code> drop table becomes <code>4.761x</code> rarer than the base rate.
	* The 1/100 drop table is now 1/476.		* The <code>1/100</code> drop table is now <code>1/476</code>

	===Example 2: Trio Grouping===		===Example 2: Trio Grouping===
	Let's say instead of being 1 of 500 people, you're in a trio.		Let's say instead of being 1 of 500 people, you're in a trio.

	For this example, let's assume you had a ~~'''~~33% damage contribution~~'''~~		For this example, let's assume you had a <code>33% damage contribution</code>
	* All players receive a "bonus" 20% damage contribution for being in a grouped kill.		* All players receive a "bonus" <code>20%</code> damage contribution for being in a grouped kill.
	* Total contribution is now 53%		** Total contribution is now <code>53%</code>
	* With a 53% contribution, the 1/100 drop table becomes 1.886x rarer than the base rate.		* With a <code>53%</code> contribution, the <code>1/100</code> drop table becomes <code>1.886x</code> rarer than the base rate.
	* The 1/100 drop table is now 1/189.		* The <code>1/100</code> drop table is now <code>1/189</code>

	===Example 3: Duo Grouping===		===Example 3: Duo Grouping===
	Let's say instead of a trio, you're in a duo.		Let's say instead of a trio, you're in a duo.

	For this example, let's assume you had a ~~'''~~66% damage contribution~~'''~~		For this example, let's assume you had a <code>66% damage contribution</code>
	* All players receive a "bonus" 20% damage contribution for being in a grouped kill.		* All players receive a "bonus" <code>20%</code> damage contribution for being in a grouped kill.
	* Total contribution is now 86%		** Total contribution is now <code>86%</code>
	* With a 53% contribution, the 1/100 drop table becomes 1.163x rarer than the base rate.		* With a <code>53%</code> contribution, the <code>1/100</code> drop table becomes <code>1.163x</code> rarer than the base rate.
	* The 1/100 drop table is now 1/116.		* The <code>1/100</code> drop table is now <code>1/116</code>

	===Example 4: 5 Man Group===		===Example 4: Five Man Group===
	For this example, let's assume you are a 5 man team which all had equal damage contribution.		For this example, let's assume you are a 5 man team which all had equal damage contribution.
	<br> The drop table we will use is the Holy ~~Elixer~~ / Spirit Shield table, which is <code>1/64</code>		<br> The drop table we will use is the Holy Elixir / Spirit Shield table, which is <code>1/64</code>
			<br>Following the same structure as above, all players now have a <code>40%</code> effective damage contribution, adjusting the drop rate from <code>1/64</code> to <code>1/160</code>

			This means that your team has 5 chances to roll the table at <code>1/160</code>.
			<br> 5 players rolling <code>1/160</code> is <code>5/160 == 1/32</code>

			Given these calculations, the exlected kills to roll this drop table is <code> 32 kills </code> in a 5 man group, as opposed to <code> 64 kills </code> in a solo party at 100% contribution.

	==Section 3: Weighting==		==Section 3: Weighting==
			Weighting becomes a factor when a drop table contains more than 1 item in that table. As shown above in Example 4, the drop table discussed had 2 items. These two items are not guaranteed to have the same weighting, meaning the likelyhood for you to receive one or the other if you roll that drop rable.

			Utilizing the [[Corporeal Beast]] again:
			*In ''Oldschool RuneScape'', you have a <code>1/585</code> chance to hit the "Sigil" drop table.
			** When you hit this table, you have a <code>1/7</code> chance of receiving an Elysian sigil, and a <code>3/7</code> chance of a Spectral or Arcane sigil.

			A similar system exists within August, whereby some items in a specific loot table are weighted higher than others to keep item rarity in check.

Bark: Created page with "Loot mechanics, sometimes referred to as drop rate, is the system that controls what items are dropped, and with probability. To be clear, this system has never been a secret, but it has been poorly communicated in the past. So, this page was born. ==Section 1: Rationale== Drop rates are different in August than you would expect to see in OSRS, and this is due to many factors. The primary factors are: * Economy at scale * Player power The economy of August is inherent..."

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Created page with "Loot mechanics, sometimes referred to as drop rate, is the system that controls what items are dropped, and with probability. To be clear, this system has never been a secret, but it has been poorly communicated in the past. So, this page was born. ==Section 1: Rationale== Drop rates are different in August than you would expect to see in OSRS, and this is due to many factors. The primary factors are: * Economy at scale * Player power The economy of August is inherent..."

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Loot mechanics, sometimes referred to as drop rate, is the system that controls what items are dropped, and with probability.

To be clear, this system has never been a secret, but it has been poorly communicated in the past. So, this page was born.

==Section 1: Rationale==
Drop rates are different in August than you would expect to see in OSRS, and this is due to many factors. The primary factors are:
* Economy at scale
* Player power

The economy of August is inherently smaller than a game like OSRS, and the player in August does ''exponentially'' more damage to NPCs than you do in OSRS.
<br>With these two things in mind, the drop rate of certain NPCs needs to be adjusted to balace out the game.

Drop rate is more than just the rate of the listed NPC. There are additional factors, outlined below;
* Assume a monster has a drop rate of 1/100
* On kill, regardless of party size or your damage contribution, each player has a chance to roll drops.
* Drop rolls are calculated by table first, THEN the item itself.
* Additionally, your damage contribution is factored into this rate.

==Section 2: Examples==
===Example 1: World Boss===
Let's say you are one of 500 people killing the World Boss, and an item on that table is <code>1/100</code>, and none of them drop?
<br>Surely, there should have been 5 dropped. If this were the case, the economy would collapse. This was thought of and intentially not how it works.

For this example, let's assume you had a '''1% damage contribution'''
* All players receive a "bonus" 20% damage contribution for being in a grouped kill.
* Total contribution is now 21%.
* With a 21% contribution, the 1/100 drop table becomes 4.761x rarer than the base rate.
* The 1/100 drop table is now 1/476.

===Example 2: Trio Grouping===
Let's say instead of being 1 of 500 people, you're in a trio.

For this example, let's assume you had a '''33% damage contribution'''
* All players receive a "bonus" 20% damage contribution for being in a grouped kill.
* Total contribution is now 53%
* With a 53% contribution, the 1/100 drop table becomes 1.886x rarer than the base rate.
* The 1/100 drop table is now 1/189.

===Example 3: Duo Grouping===
Let's say instead of a trio, you're in a duo.

For this example, let's assume you had a '''66% damage contribution'''
* All players receive a "bonus" 20% damage contribution for being in a grouped kill.
* Total contribution is now 86%
* With a 53% contribution, the 1/100 drop table becomes 1.163x rarer than the base rate.
* The 1/100 drop table is now 1/116.

===Example 4: 5 Man Group===
For this example, let's assume you are a 5 man team which all had equal damage contribution.
<br> The drop table we will use is the Holy Elixer / Spirit Shield table, which is <code>1/64</code>

==Section 3: Weighting==